When I decided to start a podcast there was one person who couldn’t refuse. I met my best friend Zach while we were training to be associates at Discover. We worked together to the amusement of our fellow employees and even took a trip to Arizona together in 2015.

There is no amount of praise I can put upon him that would justify what he has meant to me over the years. This is our first podcast where we talk about Ohio State, his favorite subject, and his prowess as a gamer.

We get into Manchester United and the hopelessness there, and of course the fact that we are polar opposites politically, and love each other despite that.